Logs for the Neighborhood Assembly Held on 2020-06-20
June 20, 2020
<sgp_> 0. Introduction
<needbrrrrrrr90> If I find yourself afk simply ping me repeatedly and my cellphone will buzz
<endogenic> o hello
<sgp_> We wish to welcome everybody to this Monero Neighborhood Workgroup Assembly!
<needbrrrrrrr90> And I am going to get up
<binaryFate> good day
<sgp_> Hyperlink to agenda on GitHub: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/475
<sgp_> Monero Neighborhood conferences are a dialogue place for something occurring within the Monero Neighborhood, together with different Monero workgroups. We use conferences to encourage the group to share concepts and supply help.
<sgp_> 1. Greetings
<needbrrrrrrr90> Missed the final two conferences as a result of I overslept and 10am is just too early
<needbrrrrrrr90> Glad to be right here 😀
<needbrrrrrrr90> Osu is nice
<needbrrrrrrr90> Everybody useless 🙁
<needbrrrrrrr90> Ought to we ping
<midipoet> good day
<sgp_> thanks everybody for being right here!
<sgp_> 2. Neighborhood highlights
<sgp_> See Monero weekly highlights at https://revuo-monero.com
<sgp_> Take a look at sources at https://communityworkgroup.org. It additionally has a calendar you may subscribe to for assembly reminders.
<sgp_> asymptotically was an absolute champ and uploaded assembly logs for the previous 6+ months to the getmonero.org web site!
<sgp_> ErCiccione, fort3hlulz, xmrhaelan, geonic, wowario, and others have been sharing details about Monero with the #DidYouKnowMonero hashtag. Please take part in case you are on Twitter https://twitter.com/search?q=%23DidYouKnowMonero
<sgp_> Does anybody have group (non-workgroup) updates to share?
<rehrar> query concerning that. This week there wasn’t a lot information. 🙁 anyone have information to share?
<rehrar> Revuo for this previous week not out but. I am going to put it out now. However there was just one information merchandise (Iranian alternate)
<msvb-web> Hey everybody.
<needbrrrrrrr90> Hey Michael
<rehrar> so we did draw a Monero fox to compensate, but when anybody had one other information merchandise please let me know
<sgp_> rehrar: when will your Mainnet discuss be public?
<rehrar> OH! Yeah! It’s public, no?
<rehrar> or was the hyperlink I despatched unlisted?
<sgp_> the hyperlink you despatched me was unlisted
<rehrar> oof, then idk
<sgp_> did they get again to you on formatting?
<rehrar> no. I emailed. No response.
<rehrar> I am going to e-mail once more.
<binaryFate> rehrar: web site received netlify, possibly value a information
<ErCiccione[m]> Sorry i am late however i am right here
<rehrar> binaryFate: so any modifications made are robotically pushed?
<binaryFate> no, however when individuals make a PR, a model of the web site with that PR is robotically constructed
<sgp_> rehrar: is the CLSAG audit being funded already represented?
<binaryFate> and linked from PR on github
<needbrrrrrrr90> That is neat
<rehrar> I have never prior to now used a proposal being funded as a information merchandise, however I assume I can
<binaryFate> ErCiccione[m] is aware of particulars and took care of a lot of the netlify stuff
<sgp_> haha idk, simply making an attempt to supply solutions
<rehrar> need to see the fox?
<fort3hlulz> Netlify helps with docs updates, since we’ll get to see a construct with it right?
<sgp_> this workgroup has a Twitter, possibly shill that
<rehrar> it is cute
<sgp_> yeah after all
<fort3hlulz> Rehrar it will be nice to share concerning the twitter marketing campaign in there too IMO
<sgp_> that is soooooooo cute!
<midipoet> remind me of Mozilla. Perhaps that is the thought although
<fort3hlulz> Effectively completed
<sgp_> I desire a shirt
<sgp_> and a blanket
<ErCiccione[m]> I may give a fast replace about what netlify is later when it is time to give updates concerning the web site
<sgp_> ErCiccione[m]: ty 🙂
<fort3hlulz> May you additionally submit about it in Reddit @erciccione?
<netrik182[m]> hello sgp_. sorry for being late
<ErCiccione[m]> Does it value to make a devoted submit? i used to be pondering of together with it in my regular month-to-month (roughly) replace
<sgp_> I agree with that largely
<sgp_> anything on this part?
<sgp_> 4. Workgroup report
<sgp_> is selsta right here?
<sgp_> a. Daemon/CLI/GUI workgroup
<selsta> yep for a brief replace no less than
<sgp_> candy 🙂
<selsta> we’re getting ready v0.16.0.1 with small bug fixes
<selsta> additionally mooo managed to repair a brilliant uncommon bug that has existed for ages
<selsta> (issue drift bug)
<rehrar> moneromooo is kinda bae
<selsta> other than that nothing main
<sgp_> I unintentionally skipped the CCS part, in order that shall be after the workgroup updates
<msvb-lab> rehrar: What’s ‘bae’?
<rehrar> slang for ‘child’. It means he is superior.
<sgp_> thanks selsta
<sgp_> b. Localization workgroup
<ErCiccione[m]> We have now loads of urged strings on Weblate that have to be reviewed. So principally when you can, go on https://translate.getmonero.org and assessment the strigns individuals urged
<ErCiccione[m]> It is solely a matter of giving an upvote of a downvote
<ErCiccione[m]> it is a pity to see so many solutions and lack of reviewers
<fort3hlulz> Do you usually want English critiques?
<ErCiccione[m]> some languages are compltely translated (for instance norwegian), however want a reviewer to
<fort3hlulz> Or solely different translations?
<ErCiccione[m]> Solely different languages. If we need to change english strings we’ve got to do it immediately on the repo, no matter it’s
<fort3hlulz> Ah, okay.
<ErCiccione[m]> forgot to finish the sentence earlier: “we’d like a reviewer to substantiate and assessment the translations”
<ErCiccione[m]> if anyone wants assist, help or have query, #monero-translations is the place to go
<ErCiccione[m]> That is it. Evaluate assessment assessment 🙂
<sgp_> c. Web site workgroup
<sgp_> maintain going :p
<ErCiccione[m]> so, as binaryfate stated, now we’ve got a netlify integration
<ErCiccione[m]> which signifies that as soon as a PR is opened, Netlify will construct it and present a preview of how the web site will appear like
<ErCiccione[m]> then a bot will remark below the PR with a hyperlink to the preview
<ErCiccione[m]> you may see it working right here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/pull/1027
<sarang> What are the “impartial checks” on the CI?
<ErCiccione[m]> I feel that is supr helpful as a result of enable peopel to right away see how the modifications will appear like and can enable individuals and not using a construct setting for the web site to have an summary of the modifications
<fort3hlulz> That is fairly superior!
<fort3hlulz> Tremendous essential to get extra docs/web site contributions.
<fort3hlulz> Now I want to really dig into the docs…
<ErCiccione[m]> sarang: impartial checks?
<sarang> The CI exhibits some checks labeled “impartial”
<ErCiccione[m]> fort3hlulz: sure that was my essential purpose: getting extra individuals to try the web site repo 🙂
<sarang> Header guidelines, and so on.
<ErCiccione[m]> ooh, okay, i do not see the impartial, however these are just a few netlify customary checks. I deactivated most of them to have a superquick buld (2-Three minutes) and we do not want them anyway
<sarang> Acquired it
<ErCiccione[m]> What we automotive about it is largely solely the preview
<ErCiccione[m]> could be optimized a bit, particularly as a result of we’ve got restricted construct time (300 minutes)
<ErCiccione[m]> so we are able to take away builds for stuff we do not care about, just like the readme
<ErCiccione[m]> i’ll look into it sooner or later. For now it is working precisely because it ought to
<fort3hlulz> Per 30 days? Or what interval?
<binaryFate> we might ask in the event that they need to be listed as sponsor for giving us greater tier at no cost. That appears fairly helpful and they might get some good noise from monero individuals on twitter and so on
<ErCiccione[m]> per 30 days, sure
<fort3hlulz> Good thought @binaryFate
<ErCiccione[m]> binaryFate: that is a good suggestion
<fort3hlulz> Or if not, we might do a CCS for it, would anticipate it to be funded.
<sarang> What would the associated fee be?
<ErCiccione[m]> yeah, the following drained is supercheap anyway
<ErCiccione[m]> trying that up
<selsta> $7/500 minutes construct minutes
<ErCiccione[m]> not supercheap however not costly: $45 a month
<rehrar> Okay. I am going to contact then.
<selsta> we don’t want the following tier if we solely use it for deploy
<selsta> for preview*
<rehrar> selsta however we are able to have it!!!
<ErCiccione[m]> A “professional” plan would additionally enable us so as to add individuals to the group. It is not supr essential, however would enable me to have aces to the settings
<binaryFate> proper now we’re good for ~100 PR / month
<binaryFate> in all probability okay?
<selsta> Appears okay for now.
<ErCiccione[m]> yeah calculated on the time and we must be good, with even some additional time
<ErCiccione[m]> iiirc we should always have the ability to handle double the PR quantity we presently have
<sgp_> I do not assume anybody is right here from the outreach workgroup, so we are able to skip that part
<sgp_> e. Monero Analysis Lab
<ErCiccione[m]> Since we’re at it, i need to remind that the PR which modifications the homepage continues to be open and ready for critiques
<ErCiccione[m]> i’ll pressure push it to set off the netlify preview
<ErCiccione[m]> that is it
<sgp_> thanks 🙂
<sgp_> sarang, do you’ve a fast replace?
<sarang> I did a bunch of research work on transaction historical past, transaction sorts, and spend patterns in help of output choice updates
<sarang> and have been updating the CLSAG preprint in response to audit draft outcomes
<sarang> We will use the outcomes of the evaluation work to higher affect future choices on constructing transactions safely
<sgp_> let’s get these coinbase-only rings :p
<sarang> The evaluation means that coinbase spend patterns (when it comes to age) do not differ from non-coinbase, which is an fascinating and considerably sudden consequence
<sarang> I additionally know that Isthmus and mates have been engaged on their post-quantum analysis
<sarang> however I do not need to converse for them
<sgp_> thanks, anything?
<sarang> Nothing main that is not boring math =p
<sgp_> f. Monero Defcon Village
<msvb-lab> Hey, thanks sgp.
<msvb-lab> These of us who’ve attended all of the Monero Village (at #monero-defcon channel) conferences, can please determine if you need particular privileges on the Defon Discord server.
<msvb-lab> When you do, please:
<msvb-lab> #1 Create a Discord account, #2 Navigate https://discord.gg/defcon, #Three Discover me ‘Michael’ on the ‘linecon’ channel of the Defcon Discord server. #Four Say good day to me, please.
<msvb-lab> That helps me discover your distinctive ID, and that’s what Defcon Goons have to safe your home within the Monero Village channel of the Defcon Discord server.
<rehrar> Okay. I’ll do this. Thanks.
<msvb-lab> Any questions on that?
<sgp_> He’s Michael#7293
<sgp_> no questions
<msvb-lab> sgp: Michael#7293 is a clonable id, any imposter can take that. The actual ID requires inexperienced magic to acquire, and is 18 numbers lengthy.
<msvb-lab> Okay, simply please all village workers who need privileges attempt to assist by doing this within the subsequent days. I am going to attempt to concentrate in EU timezones to the channel.
<sgp_> another Defcon updates?
<msvb-lab> Or discover out your actual 18 digit ID and ship me e-mail michael⊙go
<msvb-lab> sgp: Solely updates concerning the intervillage digital badge, nevertheless it takes too lengthy to report.
<msvb-lab> So it is likely to be finest to go to the following agenda matter sgp? Or no?
<sgp_> solely issues which are related for a group assembly I assume. Defcon has its personal conferences too clearly
<sgp_> okay, shifting on then
<sgp_> 3. CCS updates
<sgp_> The CLSAG Audit funds switch to OSTIF has occurred with out unexpected points. OSTIF transformed ~172 XMR to USD. The surplus XMR had been donated to the Monero Basic Fund.
<sgp_> Funding required:
<sgp_> Sarang: analysis funding for 2020 Q3 (487.73 / 518 XMR) https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/sarang-2020-q3.html
<sgp_> Defcon tools storage for one yr (6 / 13 XMR) https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/defcon-storage.html
<sgp_> Concepts (to be mentioned):
<sgp_> ErCiccione: Three extra months half time work on Getmonero.org (July-Sept) (132 XMR) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/153
<sgp_> authorised, subsequent :p
<ErCiccione[m]> 😛 I am right here for any query
<sgp_> individuals have 5 seconds so as to add an objection, else I am assuming unanimous approval
<sgp_> okay, completed with CCS stuff
<sgp_> 5. Open concepts time
<sgp_> It’s open concepts time. What’s one thing we must be doing higher?
<ErCiccione[m]> Superquickly earlier than the following level, i forgot to submit the hyperlink to my reddit submit with the latest updates to the web site: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/h86mof/getmoneroorg_updated_1_new_user_guide_1/
<monerobux> [REDDIT] GetMonero.org up to date: 1 new person information, 1 Moneropedia entry and 1 person information rewritten, 1 new FAQ, ‘Fairly’ faraway from the header and extra (self.Monero) | 42 factors (95.0%) | 12 feedback | Posted by ErCiccione | Created at 2020-06-13 – 12:28:45
<midipoet> ErCiccione[m]: simply curious, what does “triaging” imply within the context of internet sites? I solely have ever heard it getting used within the area of drugs…
<msvb-lab> Not likely an open thought, however I am nonetheless confused if there’s a migration plan from Gitlab, Github, standalone, cloud, or forwards and backwards.
<sgp_> most stuff will keep on Github
<sarang> Seems like CCS stuff is intending to remain on GitLab
<sgp_> the CCS stuff will keep on gitlab
<ErCiccione[m]> midipoet: It signifies that when a difficulty is open, i assign it a label and decide how essential it’s (to outline how fast we have to work on it)
<midipoet> ErCiccione[m]: is sensible. Thanks
<msvb-lab> sgp sarang: Shoulnd’t we add Bitbucket and possibly get a fourth or fifth server so we do not appear too constant?
<msvb-lab> That was a joke.
<ErCiccione[m]> midipoet: it is a fancy methods to say “i maintain observe of what points are open and what we’ve got to do with them” 🙂
<midipoet> ErCiccione[m]: i at all times approve of a little bit of fancyness right here and there
<xmrscott[m]> As a deal with
<sgp_> appears to be like like not many individuals had fancy concepts, and that is time 🙂
<sgp_> 6. Verify subsequent assembly date/time
<sgp_> The group assembly on the 4th of July is CANCELLED. The following group assembly shall be in Four weeks on the 18th of July.
<sarang> Fancy thought: help key-based pushes on GitLab 😀
<sarang> (I do know that is apparently some cloudflare factor)
<sgp_> The following Espresso Chat is on Saturday 27 June at 17:00 UTC. Sadly, I might want to miss this one once more. rehrar, are you able to average?
<msvb-lab> Nice assembly sgp, thanks very a lot for moderating it.
<sgp_> thanks, apologies everybody
<sgp_> That’s all! Thanks for attending this Monero Neighborhood assembly, and we hope to see you on r/MoneroCommunity and #monero-community. Take care, STAY SAFE AND ISOLATED, and know that change begins with YOU.
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